On the “Up with Chris” show this morning an argument was given by a
conservative pundit, Tim Carney of the Washington Examiner that murders in
America are not actually a function
of gun ownership.
Conservative talker Tim Carney |
He cited statistics from Russia showing
that while that country has banned individual ownership of guns the murder rate
has nevertheless remained high.
Chris Hayes |
This type of cherry picking a statistic to prove a
partisan or favorable point for one side of an argument is wrong,
disingenuous and quite frankly dangerous.
But it has nevertheless become part and parcel of the
conservative, right wing movement’s message on anything they espouse or are
against.
Sadly this time it borders on the
ridiculous.
The main problem fair minded people have when trying to
argue against this type of silly analogy is where to start.
For example, why suddenly choose Russia ?
Have we been comparing America to Russia all
along?
Is Russia the authority on gun control
or the lack thereof?
Has the speaker spent extensive time in that country?
Has he examined the social constraints of the citizenry?
Has he examined the social constraints of the citizenry?
Does he have intimate knowledge of the Russian criminal and their tactics?
I could go on but hopefully the point is made that the
statistic he alluded to, while possibly accurate to some degree may not have come out of an
unbiased poll but rather a generally hidden part of the speaker’s body upon
which he sits!
And the counterarguments come out of the woodwork whenever someone
suggests for a moment that we should ban or even just limit gun ownership by
average Americans. And while they come from various directions the words emanate from only one place, the cold dead hands and mouths of the National Rifle
Association.
NRA Members today |
No Longer NRA Members |
We should all know by now how extensive a reach into the
once hallowed halls of Congress the NRA has since no Senator or Congressman has
been able to speak out against them and get reelected.
They are not replaced by other candidates merely because
they have outlived their usefulness but rather because they lost the bribe money
that fills today’s campaign finance coffers.
But back to the singular argument that equates
America ’s rampant gun shot caused
deaths with those of Mother Russia.
Conservatives use this glorious statistic to prove that
banning guns will not lower the murder rate.
However they will lower the gun shot induced murder rate
and at least that’s a start!
Walther PPK ala 007License 2 Kill |
While some will hide behind the second amendment and its
vague wording it is good to note that it does actually mandate we all
carry concealed Walther PPKs or AK47 assault rifles manufactured by the
NRA!
That document does call for a well regulated and armed
militia, a police force which we seem to have in every corner of the
country.
AK 47 so necessary for deer hunting! |
Does any individual really need an assault rifle with a
‘clip’ that holds a thousand bullets?
If he is going hunting and needs that large an arsenal to
take down a deer then maybe hunting isn't his best hobby.
And also note that our government had the sense to step
in and stop individual ownership of tanks or surface to air
missiles! I guess the NRA doesn't have the contract to build those.
So noting that there is a sane limit to how much is too
much let’s take this one step at a time and use what I feel is a perfect
analogy, if I do say so myself.
When the automobile came into existence it was a not too
dangerous novelty.
But as years of improvements made it faster that changed. Soon there were car accidents that caused injury or death.
But as years of improvements made it faster that changed. Soon there were car accidents that caused injury or death.
The government rightly stepped in and laws were
implemented to ensure vehicular safety.
In no specific chronological order the new rules were:
Windshield wipers to help drivers see in the rain were invented and made mandatory.
To stop passenger deaths in the event of an accident we
have seatbelts.
When those proved ineffective against certain injuries
air bags were added.
‘Driving under the influence’ laws are
standard.
Anything that distracts a driver and can cause an
accident or death such as hand held phones etc. have been and continue to be
outlawed, although this is still a work in progress in some
States.
I could go on but the simple indisputable fact is that
with every new rule or ban or law another cause of unnecessary death is taken
out of the equation.
And that’s how we must deal with guns in
America !
Starting today or as soon as Congress can take enough
Zantac to allow them to face their backers without crumbling we should ban assault rifles
completely.
Then pass laws to limit the number of handguns while granting owners grandfathered exceptions.
We can then get rid of the balance through attrition and gun ‘buy back’ programs.
We can then get rid of the balance through attrition and gun ‘buy back’ programs.
Make this tragedy harder to reoccur |
If the murder rate rises or stays elevated we may then go after the
new reason and work on combating its cause.
Car safety is a work in progress that hardly anyone
disputes is a good idea. It is also a boon to new industries such as the aforementioned seat belt and air bag producing industries.
But even though gun control will not create new industries and somewhat hurt the funereal service one we should still pursue the righteous cause.
Let’s make progress in gun control a social issue of equal import to car safety and stop needless tragedies such as the latest one inAurora , Colorado and the next one in ???
But even though gun control will not create new industries and somewhat hurt the funereal service one we should still pursue the righteous cause.
Let’s make progress in gun control a social issue of equal import to car safety and stop needless tragedies such as the latest one in
Don’t allow silly biased statistics to stop
progress.
Little by little we can make America a safer
place for all Americans!
4 comments:
Nice try with the car analogy. The govt has done little if nothing to curb auto death...Why not mental health checks for a drivers licence? We certainly don't want mentally unstable people behind the wheel. Why doesn't the government require the max speed of a vehicle be no more than 75mph? Better yet, the vehicle won't travel faster than the speed limit in any area? We certainly have the technology now. Yhy isn't there a breathalyzer machine in every vehicle? Your apple to oranges comparison is less valid than comparing the U.S. to Russia.
You also lack a plan to counteract the illegal gun smuggling and import business that will be a booming industry for criminal entities after you destroy the 200,000+ honest living wage jobs in America fueled by the production of modern sporting rifles.
I never claim to have all the answers but demanding the perfect be the enemy of the good is dangerous. In other words you would rather do nothing and allow the status quo to continue ad infinitum. That is a sad defeatist type of attitude that causes the country to fall behind the rest of the world.
But the bottom line is we have a tremendous problem in America and sadly too many think, or perhaps don't think, like you and that will be a huge problem in the future.
But of course I could be wrong.
Thanks for the comments!
We agree on one point...we have a tremendous problem in America. Sadly, we have a broken society rampant with drugs, gang violence, theft, assault, economic squalor, and a general lack of a moral compass which some equate to godlessness. All the while you prefer to blame an inanimate object that only becomes evil in the hands of evil.
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